Monday, July 07, 2003
ALL-STAR STRUCK, SHOCKED, AND CHAGRINNED
Great article by Ken Rosenthal
AL STARTERS
(who should have gotten it)
C-Whore Posada-NYY (Jason Varitek-BOS)
1B-Carlos Delgado-TOR
2B-Alfonso Soriano-NYY (Bret Boone-SEA)
3B-Troy Glaus-ANA (Corey Koskie-MIN or Bill Mueller-BOS)
SS-Alex Rodriguez-TEX (Nomar Garciaparra-BOS)
OF-Manny Ramirez-BOS
OF-Hideki Matsui-NYY
OF-Ichiro Suzuki-SEA (Vernon Wells-TOR)
DH-Edgar Martinez-SEA (Kevin Millarthra-BOS)
AL Pitchers
Lance Carter-TB (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Brenden Donelly-ANA
Shigetosi Hasegawa-SEA (are you fucking serious?)
Keith Foulke-OAK
Eddie Guardado-MIN
Roy Halladay-TOR
Estaban Loiza-CWS
Mike MacDougal-KC
Mark Mulder-OAK
Jamie Moyer-SEA
CC Sabathia-CLE( doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Barry Zito-OAK
ummmmmmmmmm, WHERE THE FUCK IS PEDRO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
AL Reserves
C-Ramon Hernandez-OAK (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?????????)
1B-Mike Sweeney-KC (Millar having better season)
2B-Bret Boone-SEA (deserves it, but so doesn't Todd Walker)
3B-Hank Blalock-TEX
SS-NOMAAAAAAH-BOS
OF-Garret Anderson-ANA
OF-Melvin Mora-BAL (perhaps should be starting)
OF-Vernon Wells-TOR
OF-Dmitri Young-DET (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
DH-Carl Everett-TEX (again, are you fucking serious?)
ummmmmmmmm, WHERE THE FUCK ARE VARITEK AND MILLAR?!?!?!?!?!?!?
NL Starters
C-Javy Lopez-ATL
1B-Todd Helton-COL
2B-Marcus Giles-ATL
3B-Scott Rolen-StL (Mike Lowell-FLA)
SS-Edgar Renteria-StL
OF-Albert Pujols-StL
OF-Barry Bonds-SFG
OF-Gary Sheffield-ATL
Proud that the voters got Albert in there.
NL Pitchers
Armando Benitez-NYM (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Kevin Brown-LAD
Shawn Chacon-COL
Eric Gagne-LAD
Mark Prior-CHC
Jason Schmidt-SFG
John Smoltz-ATL
Billy Wagner-HOU
Mike Williams-PIT
Woody Williams-StL
Randy Wolf-PHI
Kerry Wood-CHC
ummmmmmmmmm, where the FUCK, is Dontrelle Willis?
NL Reserves
C-Paul LoDuca-LAD (I'm sick of Piazza)
1B-Richie Sexson-MIL
2B-Jose Vidro-MON
3B-Mike Lowell-FLA
3B-Aaron Boone-CIN
SS-Rafael Furcal-ATL
OF-Jim Edmonds-StL
OF-Luis Gonzalez-ARZ (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
OF-Andruw Jones-ATL
OF-Rondell White-SDP (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
OF-Preston Wilson-COL
No Vlad?
Sox offense is the best in baseball and only 2 guys are going not counting Varitek's immanent triumph in the 32nd roster spot voting. Ramon Hernandez not even top 5 in fan voting yet he is there. Nomar fell 200,000 votes shy of starting. If only half the people in Boston voted another time, he'd be there. Or perhaps if they passed out All-star ballots in the bleachers, he'd be there.
AL fan voting results
NL fan voting results
Why fan voting is moronic:
1. The game means something now. It is no longer an exhbition. Coneivably, AL fans might vote for weaker NL players so that the AL has a better chance to win.
2. Whore Posada (.254 BA, shitty defense) gets 1,000,000 more votes than Varitek (.297 BA, best defensive catcher in the League).
3. Larger cities have more votes and skew results. Case in point, Derek "below .300" Jeter got 800,000+ votes
4. Japanese people can't see past their own players and the teams those players are on.
5. Players with reputations get votes from casual fans who don't know that Albert Pujols is hitting better than Jesus.
6. Fans vote for players just because they are on their team. Case in point: Jeremy Giambi got nearly 400,000 votes.
7. Torii Hunter getting 1,100,000 votes. .255 Average, 4 SBs. Shitty season.
I think fans should get to vote for 5 players. The top 5 vote-getters will automatically be on the All-Star team. That's it!
The following players got screwed of either starting or being on the initial 31 man rosters:
Jason Varitek-BOS
Kevin Byrnes-OAK
Mike Lowell-FLA
Sammy Sosa-CHC (it's in Chicago!)
Frank Thomas-CHC- (it's in Chicago!)
Pedro Martinez-BOS
Dontrelle Willis-FLA
Vladimir Guerrero-MON
Corey Patterson-CHC (it's in Chicago!)
Bret Boone-SEA
Vernon Wells-TOR
Melvin Mora-BAL
The following players are on the All-Star rosters but could care less about home field advantage in the World Series:
Lance Carter, CC Sabathia, Hank Blalock, Dmitri Young, Melvin Mora, Todd Helton, Armando Benitez, Shawn Chacon, Mike Williams
Here is the All-Snub team featuring players not on the 31 man rosters:
SP-Dontrelle Willis-FLA
C-Jason Varitek-BOS
1B-Jim Thome-PHI
2B-Jeff Kent-HOU
3B-Bill Mueller-BOS
SS-Derek Jeter-NYY (not really snubbed)
OF-Vladimir Guerrero-MON
OF-Corey Patterson-CHC
OF-Sammy Sosa-CHC
DH-Jason Giambi-NYY
NL will win 7-3. And could someone tell me why the AL players vote for a DH position for the bench? And how did Everett win that? He's played a full two games at DH. Here is how the team should be selected:
1. Fans at ballparks (not online cuz Japanese people don't know that Ichiro and Matsui are overrated) vote for 5 players (including pitchers) that are automatically selected to be All-Stars, not necessarily starters.
2. The managers of each team in each League nominate people for spots on the roster.
3. The AL and NL coaching staffs are determined by last year's standings. The League Champion is the Manager, his assistants are the other Division Winners, the Wild Card winner, and the rest are Managers/Coaches of the AL Manager's choosing.
4. The League Staff looks over the players nominated by the League and selects 25 players to fill out the 30 man roster.
5. The Manager selects the starting lineup and starting pitcher from the 5 players voted in and the 25 selected by his staff.
6. The 31st and 32nd players are voted in by the fans. There are two seperate online votes. One player is a pitcher, the other is a position player. The Manager and his staff nominate 5 pitchers and 5 players for the votes.
7. If any of the 32 choose not to play or cannot play, the Manager selects the replacement.
There are no rules requiring every team to have a player.
Post #51
"End of line"
Great article by Ken Rosenthal
AL STARTERS
(who should have gotten it)
C-Whore Posada-NYY (Jason Varitek-BOS)
1B-Carlos Delgado-TOR
2B-Alfonso Soriano-NYY (Bret Boone-SEA)
3B-Troy Glaus-ANA (Corey Koskie-MIN or Bill Mueller-BOS)
SS-Alex Rodriguez-TEX (Nomar Garciaparra-BOS)
OF-Manny Ramirez-BOS
OF-Hideki Matsui-NYY
OF-Ichiro Suzuki-SEA (Vernon Wells-TOR)
DH-Edgar Martinez-SEA (Kevin Millarthra-BOS)
AL Pitchers
Lance Carter-TB (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Brenden Donelly-ANA
Shigetosi Hasegawa-SEA (are you fucking serious?)
Keith Foulke-OAK
Eddie Guardado-MIN
Roy Halladay-TOR
Estaban Loiza-CWS
Mike MacDougal-KC
Mark Mulder-OAK
Jamie Moyer-SEA
CC Sabathia-CLE( doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Barry Zito-OAK
ummmmmmmmmm, WHERE THE FUCK IS PEDRO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
AL Reserves
C-Ramon Hernandez-OAK (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?????????)
1B-Mike Sweeney-KC (Millar having better season)
2B-Bret Boone-SEA (deserves it, but so doesn't Todd Walker)
3B-Hank Blalock-TEX
SS-NOMAAAAAAH-BOS
OF-Garret Anderson-ANA
OF-Melvin Mora-BAL (perhaps should be starting)
OF-Vernon Wells-TOR
OF-Dmitri Young-DET (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
DH-Carl Everett-TEX (again, are you fucking serious?)
ummmmmmmmm, WHERE THE FUCK ARE VARITEK AND MILLAR?!?!?!?!?!?!?
NL Starters
C-Javy Lopez-ATL
1B-Todd Helton-COL
2B-Marcus Giles-ATL
3B-Scott Rolen-StL (Mike Lowell-FLA)
SS-Edgar Renteria-StL
OF-Albert Pujols-StL
OF-Barry Bonds-SFG
OF-Gary Sheffield-ATL
Proud that the voters got Albert in there.
NL Pitchers
Armando Benitez-NYM (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
Kevin Brown-LAD
Shawn Chacon-COL
Eric Gagne-LAD
Mark Prior-CHC
Jason Schmidt-SFG
John Smoltz-ATL
Billy Wagner-HOU
Mike Williams-PIT
Woody Williams-StL
Randy Wolf-PHI
Kerry Wood-CHC
ummmmmmmmmm, where the FUCK, is Dontrelle Willis?
NL Reserves
C-Paul LoDuca-LAD (I'm sick of Piazza)
1B-Richie Sexson-MIL
2B-Jose Vidro-MON
3B-Mike Lowell-FLA
3B-Aaron Boone-CIN
SS-Rafael Furcal-ATL
OF-Jim Edmonds-StL
OF-Luis Gonzalez-ARZ (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
OF-Andruw Jones-ATL
OF-Rondell White-SDP (doesn't deserve it, got in on gay ass "every team has a player" rule)
OF-Preston Wilson-COL
No Vlad?
Sox offense is the best in baseball and only 2 guys are going not counting Varitek's immanent triumph in the 32nd roster spot voting. Ramon Hernandez not even top 5 in fan voting yet he is there. Nomar fell 200,000 votes shy of starting. If only half the people in Boston voted another time, he'd be there. Or perhaps if they passed out All-star ballots in the bleachers, he'd be there.
AL fan voting results
NL fan voting results
Why fan voting is moronic:
1. The game means something now. It is no longer an exhbition. Coneivably, AL fans might vote for weaker NL players so that the AL has a better chance to win.
2. Whore Posada (.254 BA, shitty defense) gets 1,000,000 more votes than Varitek (.297 BA, best defensive catcher in the League).
3. Larger cities have more votes and skew results. Case in point, Derek "below .300" Jeter got 800,000+ votes
4. Japanese people can't see past their own players and the teams those players are on.
5. Players with reputations get votes from casual fans who don't know that Albert Pujols is hitting better than Jesus.
6. Fans vote for players just because they are on their team. Case in point: Jeremy Giambi got nearly 400,000 votes.
7. Torii Hunter getting 1,100,000 votes. .255 Average, 4 SBs. Shitty season.
I think fans should get to vote for 5 players. The top 5 vote-getters will automatically be on the All-Star team. That's it!
The following players got screwed of either starting or being on the initial 31 man rosters:
Jason Varitek-BOS
Kevin Byrnes-OAK
Mike Lowell-FLA
Sammy Sosa-CHC (it's in Chicago!)
Frank Thomas-CHC- (it's in Chicago!)
Pedro Martinez-BOS
Dontrelle Willis-FLA
Vladimir Guerrero-MON
Corey Patterson-CHC (it's in Chicago!)
Bret Boone-SEA
Vernon Wells-TOR
Melvin Mora-BAL
The following players are on the All-Star rosters but could care less about home field advantage in the World Series:
Lance Carter, CC Sabathia, Hank Blalock, Dmitri Young, Melvin Mora, Todd Helton, Armando Benitez, Shawn Chacon, Mike Williams
Here is the All-Snub team featuring players not on the 31 man rosters:
SP-Dontrelle Willis-FLA
C-Jason Varitek-BOS
1B-Jim Thome-PHI
2B-Jeff Kent-HOU
3B-Bill Mueller-BOS
SS-Derek Jeter-NYY (not really snubbed)
OF-Vladimir Guerrero-MON
OF-Corey Patterson-CHC
OF-Sammy Sosa-CHC
DH-Jason Giambi-NYY
NL will win 7-3. And could someone tell me why the AL players vote for a DH position for the bench? And how did Everett win that? He's played a full two games at DH. Here is how the team should be selected:
1. Fans at ballparks (not online cuz Japanese people don't know that Ichiro and Matsui are overrated) vote for 5 players (including pitchers) that are automatically selected to be All-Stars, not necessarily starters.
2. The managers of each team in each League nominate people for spots on the roster.
3. The AL and NL coaching staffs are determined by last year's standings. The League Champion is the Manager, his assistants are the other Division Winners, the Wild Card winner, and the rest are Managers/Coaches of the AL Manager's choosing.
4. The League Staff looks over the players nominated by the League and selects 25 players to fill out the 30 man roster.
5. The Manager selects the starting lineup and starting pitcher from the 5 players voted in and the 25 selected by his staff.
6. The 31st and 32nd players are voted in by the fans. There are two seperate online votes. One player is a pitcher, the other is a position player. The Manager and his staff nominate 5 pitchers and 5 players for the votes.
7. If any of the 32 choose not to play or cannot play, the Manager selects the replacement.
There are no rules requiring every team to have a player.
Post #51
"End of line"
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